Wine Traffic #12 For 11�Oct�1999
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This is the twelfth release of the Wine's kernel cousin
publication. It's main goal is to distribute widely what's
going on around Wine (the Un*x windows emulator).
Well, this week has been very calm here on wine-devel, perhaps the
first bit(e)s of cold, forcing the bears to hibernate.
Mailing List Stats For This Week
We looked at 47 posts in 145K.
There were 22 different contributors.
10 posted more than once.
14 posted last week too.
The top posters of the week were:
- 6 posts in 19K by Klaas van Gend <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- 6 posts in 17K by Jutta Wrage <email@example.com>
- 5 posts in 13K by Huw D M Davies <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- 4 posts in 25K by 'Juergen Schmied' <email@example.com>
- 4 posts in 10K by Karl Lessard <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Full Stats
Wine and printers
�Archive Link: "Wine and printers"
Huw Davies,�Richard Browne,�,�Klaas van Gend
After Klaas van Gend proposal's from
last week, a lot of comments / enhancements have been
provided by the Wine developers' community.
Jutta Wragge, Huw Davies updated the current status of printer
Huw Davies gave some more details on the status:
- Native 16 bit drivers are somewhat functional
- 32 bit printer drivers aren't supported
- Builtin psdrv is fairly functional.
- native winspool doesn't work
- builtin winspool is fairly functional.
- Invoking 16 bit builtin PrintDlg is broken (e.g. no printing
with Agent or Write)
- Invoking 16 bit native PrintDlg works (requires native commdlg)
- Native (win95) and builtin comdlg32 (PrintDlg) work.
- Printing with 16 bit apps works as long as the app doesn't
- 32 bit printing seems not to work without native windows 95/98
- Installing a printer works through 16 bit code (tried with hp400)
- Installing a printer through 32 bit work doesn't work and Wine
doesn't take windows' 16 bit settings.
As a summary, best bets to print are either to use a 16 bit native PCL
driver - with PCL capable printers -, or to use the builtin PS driver
and use GhostScript as the renderer / printer for the output.
So, the next important step is likely to be being able to add decent
configuration for printers in the registry (Huw Davies provided a
patch that should solve the broken PrintDlg16 issue).
Richard Browne disagreed also on Klaas' overview of printing in
Windows and provided some corrections:
So what this means is that you can print from 16 and 32 bit apps using either
the builtin ps driver or for example the win3.1 or win95 ps driver, given that
you have the right things in the registry.
Native 16bit printer drivers (these include some of those shipped with win95
like the PostScript driver) should work to some extent. The ones that generate
some kind of printer control language (PS, PCL, HPGL) will work a lot better
than ones that simply send a bitmap to the printer, because of the complete
lack of either the dm* Brute functions or a dibeng.dll. While I may carry on
trying to get some of these more advanced drivers to be more functional I don't
see this as a high priority. As other people have said let's leave this to
ghostscript (and yes I have thought about getting gs to load native windows
printer drivers, but this still doesn't help non-intel systems without an
Native winspool while probably never work. It tries to load vxds and to be
honest is probably not worth the effort. This is the sort of level that we
should probably rewrite anyway. The builtin winspool is probably at the stage
where it's fairly useful for most simple printing situations, though there are
improvements which I need to make.
The builtin version of PrintDlg16 is actually not too hard to fix, before I
left I had a semi-working version that basically just called PrintDlgA. When
my laptop arrives (my other linux box is in Oxford and it's too painful to edit
anything over this link) I'll finish it off.
I'm fairly happy with the builtin ps driver as it is, I did start working on
device setup property sheets and such but ran out of time before I got anything
apart from paper size/orientation done. EPS generation is probably next
(this should be easy enough).
- Windows 95 printer drivers are 16-bit drivers that follow
essentially the same DDI ("Device Driver Interface") as Windows 3.1
- As far as I am aware, Windows 98 drivers are basically identical
to 95 drivers.
- One thing that the Windows 95/98 printer DDI does have that
Windows 3.1 didn't is a thing called DIBENG.DLL, which is a DLL that
can perform many common 'ripping' tasks on standard format bitmaps.
- The Windows NT DDI is a 32-bit interface that is completely
different to the Windows 16-bit DDI. Windows NT graphics drivers have
no relationship whatsoever to Windows 95/98 drivers.
- It is a common misconception that Windows 98/2000 printer drivers
are the same thing. This misconception arises from the hype
surrounding Microsoft's WDM ("Windows Driver Model"). WDM covers
non-GDI drivers (ie. everything but display card and printer
drivers). Graphics drivers continue to be completely different for NT
- For NT 3.x, graphics drivers run in user mode.
- In NT 4.0, Microsoft changed the graphics driver DDI so it ran in
kernel mode. At a source code level the DDI is very similar but in
kernel mode the only operating system services a driver can access are
exported from GDI's WIN32.SYS.
- In NT 2000, Microsoft changed the printer DDI again to support
user mode printer drivers (but the display driver interface remains in
kernel mode). NT 2000 printer drivers can run in kernel or user mode.
- Rather than requiring all printer manufacturers to implement
drivers from scratch, Microsoft has 3 special drivers called RasDD
(renamed to UNIDRV in NT 2000), PSCRIPT and MSPLOT. These special
drivers are used to implement 'mini-drivers'. Essentially the printer
manufacturer supplies a data file that describes their printer and
RasDD et al do all the hard stuff (if required a mini-driver can
optionally supply a DLL with custom code as well).
- Windows 95/98 also supports minidrivers, but as far as I am aware
they are not compatible. Although I note the NT DDK contains some
tools to 'port' 95 data files to NT.
- The Windows 95/98/NT/2000 printing systems contain much much more
than just the graphics drivers. There is a whole other architecture
commonly called the 'spooler'. The spooler consists of a number of
rather complex components which include: the local print provider,
network print providers, print processors, port monitors, and language
monitors. The whole spooler subsystem is very flexible, extensible
and, consequently, very confusing.
�Archive Link: "WRC enhancement"
,�Bertho Stultiens,�Joshua Thielen
Joshua Thielen reported an issue with wrc (the Wine resource compiler)
which doesn't allow two resources of different types to have the same name.
Bertho Stultiens agreed on the bug, and said he'll provide a new version
of wrc, correcting this problem as well as user-type patch.
�Archive Link: "InstallShield bug-fix"
Andreas Mohr,�,�Ulrich Weigand
Andreas Mohr reported an issue he had with some InstallShield
programs. He provided an in-depth analysis of what's going wrong:
basically, a 32 bit program called setup.exe was trying to launch a 16 bit
program, called setup.exe, but sitting in a different directory. The loader,
when checking if the module of the second setup.exe has already been loaded,
incorrectly believes the first setup.exe is the correct one, hence resulting
the second setup.exe not to be ran as expected.
Ulrich Weigand confirmed Andi's analysis and explained how to fix the
issue in the NE loader.
Sharon And Joy