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<title>KDE Traffic</title>

<author contact="mailto:aseigo@mountlinux.com">Aaron J. Seigo</author>

<issue num="17" date="13 Jul 2001 00:00:00 -0800" />

<intro>
<p>Welcome to KC KDE! This isn't just <i>any</i> KC issue, either. This is a double issue
covering the last two weeks of online conversation. Many of the KDE developers were at LinuxTag
in Stuttgart from July 5th to 8th, including contributing KC KDE author Rob Kaper. This contributed
to a slight quieting of the mailing lists as conversations and hack sessions were able to be
conducted face-to-face. While this gathering of Free Software fans and hackers was going on,
your editor was watching enviously through a web-cam as he crammed to complete a project
whose deadline was suddenly bumped up.</p>

<p>But all's well that ends well... as we move ever closer to KDE 2.2 going gold and I
have time to sleep again, here is a double-shot KC KDE. Enjoy and happy hacking!</p>
</intro>

<section
  title="Keyboard Shortcuts for kdesktop and kwin"
  subject="[PATCH] Shortcut for Show Desktop"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&amp;m=99333719420338&amp;w=2"
  posts="14"
  startdate="23 Jun 2001 14:57:16 -0800"
  enddate="29 Jun 2001 10:45:56 -0800"
>
<topic>Keybindings</topic>
<mention>Richard Moore</mention>

<p>Many people prefer to use keyboard shortcuts whenever possible and so KDE developers
pay a good amount of attention to how easy it is to drive the desktop using only the keyboard.
Carsten Pfeiffer announced a patch to add a keyboard shortcut for &quot;Show Desktop&quot;.
While implementing this shortcut, Carsten came across a limitation of KGlobalAccel and noted
this in his email saying:
<quote who="Carsten Pfeiffer">To avoid having tons of KGlobalAccel objects all over the place in kicker, I
moved the existing object (for the K-Button) to PGlobal. Keep in mind you can
also have multiple K-Buttons or Show-Desktop buttons, we don't want one
KGlobalAccel object for every button.</quote> Ellis Whitehead responded saying,
<quote who="Ellis Whitehead">Doing it &quot;right&quot; will require redesigning kcontrol/keys and altering some
KGlobalAccel member variables.  It was too close to freeze to make such
changes, though, so the insertItem() abomination is just a temporary
solution. ;)  Presuming that I don't get kidnapped by international
terrorists or burned at the stake by rabid farmers (niether of which are
common occurances in urban Michigan, USA), this will be on the top
of my priority list for the next KDE release.</quote> This should make implementing keyboard accelerators
in areas such as KWin less painful in the future.</p>

<p>During this same thread, Ralf Nolden announced the availability of a screen capture
shortcut, saying: <quote who="Ralf Nolden"> Rich and
I want to add a screenshot function to kwin as well (on the PrtSc
button, that function is heavily missing) including (I think) Ctrl+PrtSc
for a screenshot of the active window including dcop interface so other
apps can make use of that function from outside.</quote> Elsewhere Ralf
expanded on the initial announcement saying, <quote who="Ralf Nolden">
Richard Moore added the shortcuts for taking a snapshot of the desktop
and one for the currently active window, including dcop interface. Now,
first we had to struggle with the fact that we didn't have an
application that makes use of the clipboard for graphics :)  Then we
digged out the kscribble example in kdevelop (updated that to 2.0 in
kdevelop/kdevelop/examples/kscribble-2.0.tar.gz so it compiles and runs)
that does that so we could test it.
Now, with dcop everything works fine but it just doesn't with the
shortcuts and we don't know why.</quote> As with many such oddities in the land
of Unix GUIs, XWindow key mapping was to blame for the otherwise
innexplicable PrtScr key problems.</p>

</section>


<section
  title="Years Listed in Copyright Notices"
  subject="Copyright years"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&amp;m=99365534508159&amp;w=2"
  posts="16"
  startdate="27 Jun 2001 06:48:28 -0800"
  enddate="28 Jun 2001 16:27:14 -0800"
>
<p>Free software depends on copyright to ensure it is used and available
exactly as the author wishes it to be. Unfortunately, copyrights can be very tricky
and few programmers happen to also be lawyers. Questions on the topic are therefore quite common.
Gioele Barabucci asked, <quote who="Gioele Barabucci">
I still see many (c) 1999 - 2000 around KDE, shouldn't this be updated to
2001?</quote> Michael Matz provided a succinct answer saying, <quote who="Michael Matz">
If they weren't changed in 2001, then the above is correct.  If OTOH they
_were_ changed that needs an adjustment, correct.</quote>.</p>

<p>Rob Napier supplied a more comprehensive answer:</p>

<quote who="Rob Napier">
<p>Ah, now we wander into that bizarre world of software copyrights
(well, it's not just for software, but software has some special
problems). It seems obvious that you would change 1999-2000 into
1999-2001, but in most cases, it actually should be &quot;1999-2000, 2001&quot;
(and in many cases it should be &quot;1999, 2000, 2001&quot;). &quot;But that's
madness!&quot; you say. Yes, but read on....</p>

<p>The first date in a copyright notice is the date when it was first
developed. So say I worked on a brand new tool all by myself from 1996
until 1998 and then released it to the public for the first time in
1998. Then I made some updates in 1999 and re-released it. That would
be 1996-1998,1999. &quot;But software is never complete!&quot; you say. Well
maybe you say that, but that's not how copyright sees it. They see it
as being complete and released at some given time. This idea of
releasing code that doesn't really do anything (Linux 0.1) is kind of
alien to the the copyright system. Even more alien is the idea of
having your work in progress be publicly available.</p>

<p>This can then lead to copyrights like &quot;1996-1997, 1997-1999, 2001&quot; and
similar crazy-looking things.</p>

<p>Anyway, the short answer is: if you want it to be &quot;correct&quot;, keep
tacking on &quot;, &lt;year&gt;&quot; instead of using ranges once the software has
been released. Never update a copyright at all unless you're also
modifying the code in that year (as David pointed out).</p>

<p>Think it's annoying here? Try dealing with this issue surrounded by
programmers on one side who could care less, and the company lawyers
on the other side who *really* want it to be absolutely right.</p>
</quote>

<p>A bizarre world indeed...</p>

</section>

<section
  title="Proxy Support in kio_ftp"
  subject="Patch to add direct FTP proxy support in kio_ftp"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&amp;m=99364770706669&amp;w=2"
  posts="21"
  startdate="27 Jun 2001 04:54:22 -0800"
  enddate="30 Jun 2001 01:37:12 -0800"
>
<topic>KIO</topic>
<mention>Dawit Al</mention>

<p>Proxy-related issues have been a hot topic on the devel lists lately.
One such issue is related to FTP proxies, which are currently handled via
kio_http. Michael Goffioul said, <quote who="Michael Goffioul">
Following the small discussion about the problems when using a real FTP
proxy server (not an HTTP proxy, but a real FTP server that acts as a
proxy, like DeLeGate), and after being bored of changing everytime the
'@' char to '%40'. I decided to hack kio_ftp to see if it was possible to
add direct FTP proxy support. Indeed it's only a matter of redirecting
the connection and using a processed login. This results in the attached
patch, which could be commited to CVS if anybody finds it useful.</quote></p>

<p>This spawned a long thread between Michael and Dawit Alemayehu
regarding the correctness of various parts of the patch. After coming to
some understanding of the issues on both said, Dawit posted a patch
saying, <quote who="Dawit Alemayehu">
Can update kdelibs/kio and try the following patch please.
The patch assumes that the proxy FTP server does not require
you to login, but the remote server can as needed.</quote> Michael
tried the patch, noted some issues and Dawit addressed them before
committing to CVS.</p>


</section>

<section
  title="And another one bites the dust... kdesupport no longer packaged"
  subject="kdesupport???"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&amp;m=99375462423295&amp;w=2"
  posts="4"
  startdate="28 Jun 2001 10:46:10 -0800"
  enddate="28 Jun 2001 12:04:40 -0800"
>
<topic>KDE 2.2</topic>
<topic>Building KDE</topic>
<p>With the release of KDE2.2beta1, many users were confused at the
lack of a kdesupport package. The question continues to be raised by
users and casual developers alike. As a definitive answer to the &quot;Where is
kdesupport?&quot; question, David Faure posted the following:</p>

<quote who="David Faure">
<p>If you're building from _CVS_ then you can use the kdesupport module.
If you're building from the tarballs, then you're supposed to either go find those
libs from their original location, or binary packages. We could also provide
a kdesupport tarball for convenience, somewhere else, like we provided qt at
some point... but the point is, we don't support the stuff in kdesupport (despite
the name :), and people shouldn't create binary packages of it, since it's stuff
that gets already packaged in another form.</p>
</quote>
</section>

<section
  title="New Proxy Configuration GUI"
  subject="NEW Proxy config dialog [Correction: new links :)]"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&amp;m=99394388803881&amp;w=2"
  posts="5"
  startdate="30 Jun 2001 12:14:50 -0800"
  enddate="01 Jul 2001 06:37:04 -0800"
>
<topic>KDE Core Development</topic>
<mention>Dawit Al</mention>

<p>Those using KDE2 and accessing the network through a proxy will be happy
to hear that Dawit Alemayehu finished work on the new proxy configuration dialog,
which he announced by saying, <quote who="Dawit Alemayehu">
Here is the new proxy config dialog I have been promising for a while now.
It is fully functional and with the exception of few and perhaps annoying
cosmetic bugs which can be worked out later :)  It has quite few features
that are not present in the current dialog.  It also fixes the infamously missing
config option for setting up HTTPS proxy servers.  The intention of me providing
it now is to have people try it and give me feedback.  It probably would not be
in the 2.2 release since it contains many new messages etc... etc... Anyways,
I appreciate any feedback specially from those using the auto discover mode
(Malte will also appreciate this as well :) ) </quote> Dawit also provided several
screenshots:

<ul>
  <li><a href="http://users.starpower.net/adawit/kde2/images/mainproxydlg.png">Main proxy config</a> </li>
  <li><a href="http://users.starpower.net/adawit/kde2/images/manproxydlg.png">Manual proxy setup</a> </li>
  <li><a href="http://users.starpower.net/adawit/kde2/images/envvarproxydlg.png">Environment variable based setup</a> </li>
  <li><a href="http://users.starpower.net/adawit/kde2/images/errorproxydlg.png">User feedback dialog</a> </li>
</ul>

and posted instructions on getting the new proxy dialog:</p>

<quote who="Dawit Alemayehu">
<p>
<ol>
 <li> Download the following two files: <br />

<a href="http://users.starpower.net/adawit/kde2/patches/proxy.tgz">http://users.starpower.net/adawit/kde2/patches/proxy.tgz</a><br />
<a href="http://users.starpower.net/adawit/kde2/patches/proxy.diff">http://users.starpower.net/adawit/kde2/patches/proxy.diff</a>
</li>

<li> Untar/Uncompress (tar -zxvf) the contents of the tgz file package into kdebase/kcontrol/kio</li>
<li> Apply the patch from the same directory mentioned above.</li>
<li> Re-compile and try out :)  Please note that the cache and proxy
configuration have been separated.  You can now invoke the cache
config  dialog separately using the &quot;kcmshell cache&quot; command.</li>
</ol>
</p>
</quote>

</section>

<section
  title="New KOffice Library to be Written"
  subject="Plans for the port of KPresenter to the new QRT stuff"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=koffice-devel&amp;m=99401398801668&amp;w=2"
  posts="12"
  startdate="01 Jul 2001 09:43:17 -0800"
  enddate="03 Jul 2001 04:07:59 -0800"
>
<topic>KOffice</topic>
<p>KWord has benefit quite a lot from using the QRichText widget that has been
backported from Qt3 to Qt2. KPresenter will be the next office app to enjoy the
benefits of this work, according to an email by David Faure outlining
plans for KPresenter after KOffice 1.1. After listing in detail all the specific changes that would be
need to made, David added, <quote who="David Faure">
I suggest to put all those classes, together with the QRT classes,
into a new koffice library called libkofficetext or something like that...
Well, I have started splitting the basic classes (still in kword/ currently to avoid
merging problems, but I'll create the kofficetext lib soon, moving that stuff into it)</quote>
This was met with general approval and excitement.</p>
</section>

<section
  title="Cross Referenced KDE2 Source Code Tool Now Online"
  subject="New CROSS-REFERENCED source code tool online"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&amp;m=99411500612822&amp;w=2"
  posts="4"
  startdate="02 Jul 2001 15:00:24 -0800"
  enddate="02 Jul 2001 23:20:44 -0800"
>
<topic>HowTo</topic>
<topic>KDE 2</topic>
<p>Probably the biggest hurdle to getting involved in an already active software project is becoming
familiar with the code base. The larger the project the larger that hurdle is, and KDE is a very large
project. It takes new KDE developers some time to get acquainted with all
the nuances and capabilities available to them in the KDE source. Anything a project can do
to lower the learning curve will go a long way to helping those
interested get involved. By allowing easy access to the structure and usage
of the code base, experienced developers are also aided in visualizing and improving their own
work. Kurt Granroth announced the availability of an exciting new online resource that goes a
long way to furthering these causes:</p>

<quote who="Kurt Granroth">
<p>For those of you who don't read dot.kde.org (shame on you!), we now have a
site with all KDE source code cross-referenced!  This is done using the LXR
engine.  It's *very* cool and something that I've been looking forward to for
a long time now.  No more tearing out your hair wondering where KFoo is
defined :-)</p>

<p>The URL: <a href="http://lxr.kde.org">http://lxr.kde.org</a><br />
The story: <a href="http://dot.kde.org/994130455/">http://dot.kde.org/994130455/</a></p>
</quote>
</section>

<section
  title="kio_http Being Ported to TCPSlaveBase"
  subject="PATCH: HTTP ioslave port to TCPSlaveBase"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kfm-devel&amp;m=99413279025152&amp;w=2"
  posts="5"
  startdate="02 Jul 2001 19:55:54 -0800"
  enddate="04 Jul 2001 13:04:57 -0800"
>
<topic>KIO</topic>
<topic>Security</topic>
<topic>Performance</topic>
<mention>Dawit Al</mention>

<p>In an effort to make HTTP protocol handling more efficient and secure in KDE2,
kio_http is being ported to the TCPSlaveBase class that the other protocols
that use TCP all use now. Initial work on this was announced by Dawit Alemayehu:
</p>

<quote who="Dawit Alemayehu">
<p>Here is a link to a first run patch (rather large to post here) that attempts to
port kio_http to use TCPSlaveBase:</p>

<p><a href="http://users.starpower.net/adawit/kde2/patches/httpport.tgz">http://users.starpower.net/adawit/kde2/patches/httpport.tgz</a></p>

<p>This patch fixes:
<ol>
<li> Security concerns regarding fake certificates being accepted without a
warning the end user, i.e. no certificate verification ?? See the recent thread
on this subject in kfm-devel</li>

<li> SSL tunneling finally works!! Yeah!!! This means SSL over authenticating
proxies works with this io-slave. Not only that the changes in tcpslavebase.*
enables any inheriting io-slave to do SSLTunneling with very little work.</li>

<li> But most of all no more kio_https!!!! R.I.P. Now kio_http does it all.</li>
</ol>
I have also made some changes/additions to TCPSlaveBase to allow for
SSLTunneling etc. See the header documentation once you apply the
patch.</p>


<p>Known problems with patch:

 <ol>
 <li>When connecting to SSL sites you get a constant warning about IP
address of certificate not matching IP address of the site. George how
does this get fixed ? I remember you saying something about you needing
to do somethings once io-slaves were ported over to TCPSlaveBase.</li>

 <li> The &quot;Lock&quot; in konqy does not get activated even though the connection
is actually secure. This probably fails under the same issues as #1 since
everything that had to do with SSL has completely been ripped out of the
http io-slave :)</li>
</ol>
 </p>
</quote>

<p>This is obviously a very important piece of work that has a far reaching
impact on web browsing performance and capability. After some discussion
Dawit committed a portion of the patch to CVS and asked Waldo Bastian,
<quote who="Dawit Alemayehu">is there any way we can move some of these config initializations
from kio_http ? For example the language settings, whether we should use the
cookiejar etc seem to me to be things that we can move into the SessionData
class I created for password caching or back out to the application level. This
should make the instantiation of kio_http io-slave a bit more faster :) We also
need that limitation on the number of io-slaves that can connect to a given site
at a time. Is there anyway we can have this for 2.2 since it definitely have
impact on performace (http and as David recently pointed out for tar io-slave as
well) ?</quote> Encouragingly, Waldo &quot;The Tireless&quot; Bastian replied, <quote who="Waldo Bastian">
I will make the maximum nr of slaves / protocol slightly more configurable.
But not per host yet. (the tar stuff doesn't really has this host-notion
anyway)</quote>
</p>
</section>

<section
  title="To Megagradient? or Not to Megagradient? That is the Question."
  subject="Megagradient kstyle issues"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?t=99416076800002&amp;w=2&amp;r=1"
  posts="17"
  startdate="03 Jul 2001 03:38:22 -0800"
  enddate="10 Jul 2001 05:33:51 -0800"
>
<topic>Look and Feel</topic>
<topic>Art</topic>
<p>Mosfet made a splash not too long ago when he unleashed the Megagradient
style upon the KDE2 world. Many people ooh-d and ah-d over the new eye-candy.
Much has occurred since then, including people finding numerous
bugs in the style. The current resident KStyle guru, Karol Szwed, took it to task and
posted the following email for comments and opinions:</p>

<quote who="Karol Szwed">
<p>There are still many issues with the megagradient style code that
make it not fit for release with KDE 2.2 IMHO.</p>

<p>Problems such as:
<ol>
<li> Setting a menu effect such as fade or scroll makes kdeapps
coredump when accessing menu items, even though the code seems
to attempt to disable these effects unsuccessfully.</li>

<li> Many widgets such as labels do not get their background colors
updated when resizing for example dialogs. This leaves ugly
bars of colour when resizing.</li>

<li> there are various issues with torn-off popup at this point in time.</li>
</ol>
</p>

<p>Even though I am attempting to fix these issues, I have serious
doubts about whether this code should be released with kde 2.2 as these
issues may not be resolved in time with reasonable stability.</p>

<p>The only thing that depends on megagradient is kpersonalizer.
Thus, I would like to come to a concensus here before I disable it
in cvs, as kpersonalizer would have to be modified.</p>
</quote>

<p>This inspired much discussion ranging in topic from the transparent menus in Megagradient,
to overall stability of the style, to cross platform issues. Some favored disabling the
transparent menus, others fixing them. Some thought that the code should be removed
as Mosfet would be maintaining it outside of CVS anywas, others were of the opinion that people
were already expecting it to be in KDE2.2 and should therefore remain. Nearly two weeks
after the start of the discussion it was removed from the main build, though kept in CVS.</p>
</section>


<section
  title="Signals of Success?"
  subject="KDE Job Opportunity in USA"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?t=99444374200006&amp;w=2&amp;r=1"
  posts="4"
  startdate="06 Jul 2001 10:13:44 -0800"
  enddate="06 Jul 2001 13:05:34 -0800"
>
<p>You know a system is becoming successful when a job market starts to
form around it. We are perhaps seeing the beginnings of this with the following email
from Mike Pilone:</p>

<quote who="Mike Pilone">
<p>I was recently contacted by a company in Boston, Mass. USA. They are looking
for a KDE developer for:</p>

<p>-------</p>

<p>A Linux/KDE developer project (2-3 months) in the
Boston, Mass area.  I am having a very difficult time finding people who
have KDE experience! This is a two-three month project (with the possibility
of extending), and they need someone who can be onsite full time during that
period.  If you think of someone who might want to do this, I can pay up to
$45/hour, depending on experience.</p>

<p>-------</p>

<p>I personally don't have anymore information, but the contact person is &quot;Peggy
Nix&quot; &lt;pnix@abtsolutions.com&gt;, she should be able to give you some more info
if you are interested. Sounds like you will need to move or live in the
Boston area however. The company isn't looking for remote contractors, which
rules me out! If you live in the area or are willing to move, sounds like a
great opportunity to &quot;Do what you love&quot; (TM)</p>
</quote>

<p>Some suggested it would be useful for the KDE League or perhaps The Dot
to start hosting a KDE (paying) jobs page. It will be very interesting to watch and
see if more KDE related job opportunities arise.</p>

</section>

<section
  title="WYSIWYG Support in KWord"
  subject="Status of the WYSIWYG support in KWord."
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=koffice-devel&amp;m=99444015411857&amp;w=2"
  posts="5"
  startdate="06 Jul 2001 06:34:38 -0800"
  enddate="09 Jul 2001 12:17:52 -0800"
>
<topic>KOffice</topic>
<topic>KWord</topic>
<p>KWord, along with many other KOffice components, has matured tremendously
since the 1.0 release. However, there are still issues with hardcopy produced by
KWord looking different that what may be shown on-screen. David Faure posted
a status report on this issue, saying:</p>

<quote who="David Faure">
<p>After all the discussions about the WYSIWYG problems in KWord, and
after reading a little bit of Abiword's source code ... I have started to
implement a solution in KWord. Obviously, this is about doing the layout at a
constant, precise resolution (1440 DPI is what I found in abiword and it sounds ok
to me), with big fonts, and displaying the stuff with smaller fonts but using that
precise layout. This requires to change a lot of KWord's code (not the class design, but all the
coordinate conversions), so this won't go in before KOffice-1.1. </p>
</quote>

<p>David noted that large changes to KWord should not be made until his work
is committed after the KOffice 1.1 freeze as the changes are substantial. He also said
that if there is enough interest, he would commit the changes to a CVS branch for
others to compile and test.</p>
</section>


<section
  title="aRts VideoPlayObject to Allow Video in Konqueror"
  subject="PATCH: Arts::VideoPlayObject + mpeglib adapted"
  archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-multimedia&amp;m=99484797006939&amp;w=2"
  posts="6"
  startdate="11 Jul 2001 02:31:51 -0800"
  enddate="11 Jul 2001 11:49:09 -0800"
>
<topic>aRts</topic>
<topic>Multimedia</topic>
<topic>Konqueror</topic>
<mention>Nikolas Zimmerman</mention>

<p>Konqueror the webbrowser keeps getting more capabilities all the time. Java, Javascript (still a little buggy),
Netscape plugins, sound file embedding and recently experimental ActiveX support. What's next?
Embedded video of course! Nikolas Zimmermann posted his (rather large and sprawling) patch
to supply a video play object for aRts and added, <quote who="Nikolas Zimmermann">
here is a patch, which adds support for Video Embedding, ie. into Konqueror.
It's not stable, but this is a mpeglib issue! This patch is definately _not_ for KDE 2.2
but a kind of RFC and technology preview.</quote> There was some discussion
as to the amount of code duplication that was occurring in the various Konqueror
extensions and when this should be added to CVS. Of course, the answer was post 2.2.</p>
</section>

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