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Hurd Traffic #35 For 16 Feb 2000

By Zack Brown

Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote their own device drivers?
Are you without a nice project and just dying to cut your teeth on an OS you can try to modify for your needs?
Are you finding it frustrating when everything works on minix? No more all-nighters to get a nifty program working?
Then this post might be just for you :-)
-- Linus Torvalds, 1991

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Mailing List Stats For This Week

We looked at 39 posts in 146K.

There were 26 different contributors. 6 posted more than once. 15 posted last week too.

The top posters of the week were:

1. Regular IRC Meetings For Debian Hurd

4 Feb 2000 - 12 Feb 2000 (5 posts) Subject: "Re: Should we start a hurd IRC chat meeting"

People: Jim FranklinDenis Bodor

Jim Franklin suggested having a monthly or bimonthly IRC meeting for Debian Hurd, and several people voiced their support. Later, under the Subject: First IRC meeting - transcript. on my web page, Denis Bodor felt the first meeting had not been a success, but posted a link to his transcript of the session. Jim added, "I guess the ides for a real-time meeting must have been a bit premature. But we gave it a shot."

(ed. [] Personally, I think it's a great idea to have regular IRC meetings. I thought the problem with the first meeting was that people kept waiting for the luminaries to show up, not realizing that they themselves are the luminaries, since they are Hurd users/developers, and their conversations would be valuable to others. I eagerly look forward to the next transcript.)

2. The 'man' Command

7 Feb 2000 (3 posts) Subject: "man command"

People: Marcus BrinkmannR Joseph Wright

Karel Divis noticed that there were plenty of man pages in the Hurd distribution, but had trouble finding the 'man' command itself. R Joseph Wright replied with pointers to, and its dependancy, debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-hurd-i386/text/groff_1.15-2.deb. Marcus Brinkmann suggested using 'dselect' to install the 'doc/mandb' package.

3. GCC 2.95.1 And 'gnumach'

7 Feb 2000 (1 post) Subject: "RE: gnumach with gcc-2.95.1 or newer"

Stefan Weil posted a patch to 'gnumach', to let it compile under 2.95.1; it would give more warnings than older compilers, but the compile would go through. There was no reply.

4. News About Hurd User Group

8 Feb 2000 - 9 Feb 2000 (2 posts) Subject: "The networking sub-system"

People: Derek L Davies

Juho Ostman asked about networking, and Derek L Davies replied, "Actaully, I was going to ask if anyone would like to talk about this at the HURD users meeting scheduled for this Saturday. I would take notes and post them." A Hurd user group was first covered in Issue #21, Section #3  (16 Oct 1999: Boston Hurd User Group) .

5. Experimental 'dpkg' Package

11 Feb 2000 (2 posts) Subject: "experimental dpkg available"

Topics: Compiling Packages

People: Marcus Brinkmann

Marcus Brinkmann announced:

I uploaded a new version of dpkg, but not to the archive, but to

dpkg- dpkg-doc_1.6.7.1_all.deb
dpkg- dpkg_1.6.7.1.dsc
dpkg-dev_1.6.7.1_all.deb dpkg_1.6.7.1.tar.gz
dpkg_1.6.7.1_hurd-i386.changes dpkg_1.6.7.1_hurd-i386.deb

It is deliberatly not signed, as I don't want it to end up in the archive by some mistake.

The source is almost identical to the dpkg 1.6.7 source, and this is the first step toward a merge back to the "standard" version. All bugs in the Hurd I had to work around for dpkg are fixed by now, and now the remaining issues are smaller dpkg buglets and one bigger issue which is going to be resolved soon (fingers crossed).

It would be nice if some people could try this version out, and I mean all aspects (esp install-info, dpkg-source, dpkg-shlibdeps(!)). If it breaks something, let me know.







Sharon And Joy

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