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<title>GNUe Traffic</title>

<author contact="mailto:arturas@gsk.vtu.lt">Arturas Kriukovas</author>

<issue num="101" date="22 Dec 2003 00:00:00 -0800" />

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	"<i>about half year ago, I was finding out about GNUe and then whote to this IRC, why do you use Python (I said "so exotic") .........now I see, you're completely right----so have fun, GNUE is super</i>"
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<intro>
  This covers the three main mailing lists for the <a href="http://www.gnuenterprise.org">GNU Enterprise</a> project, plus the #gnuenterprise IRC channel.
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<section 
   title="AppServer"
   subject="[IRC] 15 Dec 2003" 
   archive="http://www.gnuenterprise.org/irc-logs/gnue-public.log.15Dec2003"    
   author="Arturas Kriukovas" 
   contact="mailto:arturas@gsk.vtu.lt"    
   startdate="15 Dec 2003 04:00:00 -0800" 
   enddate="15 Dec 2003 04:00:00 -0800">

   <p>Jeff Bailey (jbailey) noticed that if <quote who="Jeff Bailey">appserver uses xml-rpc</quote>, <quote who="Jeff Bailey">is it possible to do some sort of authentication on that, or is it like corba, where you just pray the person has the rights to make the call?</quote> Reinhard M&#252;ller (Reinhard) corrected that statement "appserver uses xml-rpc" isn't a 100% correct. <quote who="Reinhard M&#252;ller">Appserver uses whatever the gnue rpc library provides</quote>. Jeff said using <quote who="Jeff Bailey">xml-rpc/soap over an http transport violates do-one-thing-well architecture</quote>.</p>
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<section 
   title="Moving to svn"
   subject="[IRC] 15 Dec 2003" 
   archive="http://www.gnuenterprise.org/irc-logs/gnue-public.log.15Dec2003"    
   author="Arturas Kriukovas" 
   contact="mailto:arturas@gsk.vtu.lt"    
   startdate="15 Dec 2003 04:00:00 -0800" 
   enddate="15 Dec 2003 04:00:00 -0800">

   <p>It was agreed that there exist a consensus to move to svn <a href="http://subversion.tigris.org">http://subversion.tigris.org</a> on ash.</p>
<p>However, Jason Cater (jcater) was not sure <quote who="Jason Cater">about svn+ssh vs apache</quote>. <quote who="Jason Cater">the webdav support sounds really neat, but scares the heck out of me</quote> addmitted he, because <quote who="Daniel Baumann">apache auth methods</quote> are used. Jason was also interested whether it would be <quote who="Jason Cater">easy to go from svn+ssh to apache2 later on</quote>. Daniel Baumann (chillywilly) expected it to be easy - <quote who="Daniel Baumann">the repo is in the same format</quote>. Jason offered starting <quote who="Jason Cater">with svn+ssh, besides, if we went w/the other solution that's more to do, as apache2 isn't on ash</quote>.</p>
<p>Later, Jan Ischebeck (siesel) asked what <quote who="Jan Ischebeck">repos structure should we use? Trunk/gnue-common trunk/gnue-forms branches/gnue-test-common... or gnue-common/trunk gnue-common/branches...</quote> Jan <quote who="Jan Ischebeck">would prefer the first, as it would be easy then to check out the whole gnue tree and still be able to use the same setup-cvs.py which we use now. It would mean using just one svn repository, but we should be able to let it update different cvs repository as setup on savannah now. I think its easier to have the whole gnue project in one svn repository as it allows moving files from reports to common without loosing history but it is still possible to just check out gnue-common or gnue-forms etc.</quote> Jason grumbled about have moved <quote who="Jason Cater">to gnue-* in cvs</quote>. The was a reason to do so, but noone know remembered it. Jan agreed with Jason - <quote who="Jan Ischebeck">yeah, typing a "for .. " loop everytime to update gnue is bad</quote>. <quote who="Jan Ischebeck">Nevertheless using one tree with svn shouldn't be a problem, as we can do finegrained security with svn and it is possible to check out the tree as a whole (trunk/gnue-*) or single subdirs /trunk/gnue-common /trunk/gnue-forms ... even checking out just /trunk/gnue-common/src/datasource/drivers/postgresql is possible</quote>.</p>
<p>On 17 Dec, James Thompson (jamest) noticed that svn's hook system is <quote who="James Thompson">much easier than cvs's</quote>.</p>
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