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GNUe Traffic #75 For 5�Apr�2003

Editor: Peter Sullivan

By Peter Sullivan

"/me knows of jonas - derek talks about him all the time - sometimes good things even :)"

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This covers the three main mailing lists for the GNU Enterprise project, plus the #gnuenterprise IRC channel. GNUe Traffic is now group-authored: if you'd like to join the team, let us know

1. First release of GNUe Small Business

27�Mar�2003�Archive Link: "[IRC] 27 Mar 2003"

Summary By Peter Sullivan

Topics: Small Business

People: Peter Sullivan,�Jason Cater,�Derek Neighbors

Derek Neighbors (revDeke) said he was planning a 0.1.x release of GNUe Small Business real soon now. Peter Sullivan (psu) pointed out that "gnue-sb depends on CVS version of GNUE tools - Normally having a release depend on a CVS version of something would be ungood - but this is a 0.1.0 release, so it's really only for the brave (=CVS-aware) anyway" . Jason Cater (jcater) felt a release was premature - "/me just doesn't understand what there is to release" unless "supply item maintenance is further than I realized" . Derek Neighbors (derek) said he was "very much into release early release often" - "basically if the contact manager works under 0.5.0 - and the few items hanging out on item managemetn work under 0.5.0" then "there are two useful pieces for gnue-sb - which is sufficient release to bottle up and let escape. Also there are a large number of folks that are afraid of cvs - but dont mind playing. /me figures currently a release consists of a few liner notes and tar ball so its not like a ton of effort would go into a release at this stage" .

2. Problems with locale settings in PostgreSQL with GNUe

29�Mar�2003�Archive Link: "[IRC] 29 Mar 2003"

Summary By Peter Sullivan

Topics: Common, Forms

People: Robert Ewald,�Christian Selig,�Derek Neighbors,�Arturas Kriukovas,�ra3vat,�Dmitry Sorokin

Robert Ewald (robewald) had reported an error using the database driver for "PostgresSQL on Debian woody" , wondering "maybe it has something todo with my locale?" Christian Selig (lupo) suggested "have you tried a comma instead of a point" for decimal numbers. Derek Neighbors (derek) said this looked "like a data type error" - "i think we have had this bug before, but i thought it had to do with queries" - "postgres is broken in the way they handle data types" . Robert discovered that if he started GNUe Forms "like this : LANG=C bin/gfcvs form.gfd" , this worked - "so that solved my problem for the moment" . Derek said this sounded similar to the problem in Issue�#53, Section�#32� (28�Oct�2002:�Problems with PostgreSQL introspection effect Designer schema wizard) which "makes our "auto query" system have fits sometimes wrt number types (int,float)" . He felt "likely its not a bug - its a "settings" issue for those that dont speak english ;)" He suggested that Dmitry Sorokin (ra3vat) or Arturas Kriukovas (arturas) "would be the i18n experts to ask on that one i suspect" - the core developers did not have much experience of these problems "as we dont play with locale settings much ;)"

3. gnue.conf settings for Application Server

31�Mar�2003�Archive Link: "[IRC] 31 Mar 2003"

Summary By Peter Sullivan

Topics: Application Server

People: Jan Ischebeck,�Reinhard M�ller

Jan Ischebeck (siesel) asked "do you have any ideas which parameter should go into the [appserver] section of a gnue.conf file? At the moment [still uncommited] I have added a "database" setting, to choose the connection appserver is using. I also thought of adding values like RPCTYPE and RPCPort etc... any other ideas?" Reinhard M�ller (reinhard) felt "maybe we should use the strategy to only put the very basic settings into gnue.conf - everything appserver _needs_ to run - but not more" . This was because "because things in gnue.conf are rather static and changes probably require restarting appserver - so database, rpctype and rpcport sounds good - but i don't think we need more at this point" .

4. GNUe and the original GNU General Ledger project

31�Mar�2003�Archive Link: "[IRC] 31 Mar 2003"

Summary By Peter Sullivan

Topics: Financials (Accounting), Why GNUe?

People: Jonas Oberg,�James Thompson,�Christian Selig

Jonas Oberg (jonaso), one of the original developers of the GNU General Ledger project that preceded GNUe, "just had a few minutes to spare and spent them checking out GNUe." He "Just wanted to let everyone know that I very much approve of what you've done. Excellent work :-)" He cut and pasted a diagram from 1999 that showed how the various modules would interact - the "GNU GLUE" mentioned in it had effectively evolved into GNUe Application Server. James Thompson (jamest) explained that "jonas was the head of GNU GL which got drunk and made whoopie with Obelisk" , James' original project - "the product of that unholy union was the bastard child named GNUe" . Jonas felt "In retrospect, I think my only contribution was the link between what-became-GNUe and the FSF" , but Christian Selig (lupo) felt this was important - "such a project without FSF support is close to impossibility. You'd otherwise have to deal with too much copyright trouble (who "owns" what etc)" .

5. New pre-releases available for testing

1�Apr�2003�-�2�Apr�2003�Archive Link: "[IRC] 01 Apr 2003"

Summary By Peter Sullivan

Topics: Common, Designer, Forms, Reports

People: Jason Cater,�Daniel Baumann,�Mike Vincent,�Derek Neighbors

Jason Cater (jcater) announced "New prereleases for Common, Designer, Forms, and Reports" were on the website - "You know the drill." He was "pretty happy w/0.5.0 - it's going to be slightly more stable of a release than I expected" . Daniel Baumann (chillywilly) said he had "a db that I can make forms for - /me will beat on the tools if you want him too - it's mysql tho ;P" . Mike Vincent (Vee2d2) said "all the more reason to use it, as you can be reasonably sure the others arent.. =)" . Daniel "can even test image support - hmmm, this will be fun" .

The next day, Derek Neighbors (derek) had a "big bug report :)" "if you have a few entries with rows="x" - and you do a prepare query then an execute query - and say you get back x + 10 records and you arrow on down through the list and you go past the last record - in essence you 'create a new record' and you type in all the values - you can NOT save the record because all the save buttons/menus/etc have been disabled. I assume on 'insert' it re enables them - but going past last valid record in a 'grid' doesnt" . However, "clicking back in the FIRST entry enabled them" .

Also, "if you have a lookup and use the refresh foreign key trick - when you do a commit it updates the drop down to include what you committed but it changes every drop down on the form to that value" . Jason said he would look at both of these as soon as he had time.

Sharon And Joy

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